Kozy with Chloe

Happy New Year! Resolutions, Letting Go, and Cloacas

• Chloe Gray • Season 1 • Episode 2

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Happy New Year, 2025! 🎉 In this episode, we debate the usefulness of New Year’s resolutions, reflect on our highs and lows from 2024, and dive into the hard-fought lessons this year taught us—including finally accepting that not everyone deserves a spot in your life (or your bed).

Join us as we chat about personal growth, share our plans for the new year, and, somehow, learn about cloacas. Because no Kozy with Chloe episode is complete without a little too much information.

Chloe:

Hello there!

K:

Hey Chloe.

Chloe:

Hi Kay.

K:

I have a question for you.

Chloe:

Okay.

K:

How many dogs would you be okay with sleeping in our bed? At the same time.

Chloe:

Oh, you always get mad at me with these questions. Okay, how big are the dogs?

K:

Medium to large.

Chloe:

Is it, okay, so medium, so, so not giant breed dogs?

K:

Could be.

Chloe:

Could be, okay. Is there, is there a distribution of like, or are they, could it potentially be all giant breed dogs?

K:

The point of this question. Okay. Okay. Okay. What

Chloe:

I I would very comfortably allow two giant breed dogs and two cats Possibly three cats to sleep in our bed at the same time at least

K:

After

Chloe:

that, it gets complicated because it would really depend on the distribution of dog

K:

I first asked this question your question was How many dogs do we have? Which is completely irrelevant. It is not

Chloe:

irrelevant.

K:

And when I told you we had infinite dogs.

Chloe:

Oh, I got upset. We don't have infinite dogs. No, listen. It's a

K:

hypothetical question. of how many you would allow onto the bed.

Chloe:

Okay, this is where your beautiful little neurodivergent brain doesn't understand my sensitive neurotypical brain. I understand. Because the number of dogs that we have has a profound impact on how many I would allow in the bed. I'm not going to let some dogs in the bed and not others. That will hurt their feelings.

K:

Okay, so it's zero or all?

Chloe:

Yeah, I mean, unless we have a dog who, say, doesn't like to sleep on, like, there's, there's so many. In order to answer this question in a real way, I need to know more about these dogs.

K:

This is why I don't ask you hypotheticals anymore. Yet somehow, the hypotheticals you ask me are stuff like, if all these ships were giants, How would you feel about it?

Chloe:

No. I said, if you were in the ocean and everywhere around you, all you could see were ships and all of those ships contained giants, would you fight them for me?

K:

See, that's just a much more narrative question. It makes a lot of sense versus my like outlandish question that could never happen.

Chloe:

Let's talk about the topic today. So. It's New Year's Eve.

K:

Correct. It is New Year's Eve.

Chloe:

It is. And so we're going to talk about New Year's resolution stuff.

K:

Okay.

Chloe:

Okay. So what are your thoughts on New Year's resolutions?

K:

I think they're really stupid.

Chloe:

I knew you would think they're really stupid. Largely because I asked you earlier today.

K:

I told you. And

Chloe:

you said, I feel really strongly about them. And I got excited. I'm like, really? He likes them. I like them. And then when you came back and you chugged a mango lasse and like, Three seconds. That's how I

K:

like to drink.

Chloe:

You, you then went on a two minute rant about how much you hate them. And I kept telling you to shut up and save it for the podcast, but you ignored me and kept talking.

K:

Listen, New Year's resolutions are like when someone finds out they're. Family member or something is dying and like, oh, you know, now I'm going to spend more time with them. Okay? Why the fuck didn't you spend more time with them earlier?

Chloe:

Well, because you didn't know they were dying and so there wasn't this like sense of like you're running out of time.

K:

Sure But why does the running out of time have anything to do with it? If this is something you wanted to do, you should just do it.

Chloe:

I've seen you do the exact same thing.

K:

You have not.

Chloe:

When a family member of yours was sick, you talked to them. Like three times as often as you do now. And you talk to them almost every day now.

K:

Very slightly, but most of that was to check on her and maintain, help maintain her health. But I actually specifically told you when that happened, that. You know, I was happy with the amount of times I had seen her and visited her because you asked me about it. That's

Chloe:

true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

K:

Yeah.

Chloe:

Like, the way that you live your life just makes me really jealous.

K:

I try to live in a very logical fashion.

Chloe:

You really do. I think, I agree with you that, like, picking This is my mom

K:

and she wants children. Ranch children. I'm working on it.

Chloe:

You're working on it. This

K:

is, you're, you're the limiting factor here.

Chloe:

Yeah.

K:

Open up.

Chloe:

We're getting there. Also K has the largest head on planet earth. So the idea of producing a child from my womb.

K:

Cloaca.

Chloe:

What?

K:

Cloaca.

Chloe:

No, that is not what we would name that baby. That's

K:

not, that's not what a cloaca, do you know what a cloaca is?

Chloe:

No.

K:

So birds have one hole that they pee, poop, and have sex out of, it's called a cloaca. And so what I was implying was that when you give birth to my large headed baby.

Chloe:

That is all I will have.

K:

Yeah.

Chloe:

Yeah. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. We are going to adopt.

K:

Okay. New Year's resolutions. We're getting off track.

Chloe:

Okay, okay. So, I know that the arbitrary date is stupid, and in fact, it's not great for success. Like, less than 30 percent of people continues with it after the first month, and I think it's like 20 percent of them stop after the first week.

K:

Yeah, it's awful.

Chloe:

But I think it could be helpful though. Like people who ordinarily wouldn't create goals by themselves, at least this makes them think about how they want their life to be different.

K:

Sure. Think about, but I just feel it's setting people up for failure. It's kind of like diets, right? They're like, okay, I'm going to have this diet now. And they set these really arbitrary goals. And most of the times the goals are unreasonable

Chloe:

and

K:

it just, it doesn't work. It's not. Effective. It's not intelligent and you know, it would be just much better if they didn't put the, this pressure on themselves and did a slow buildup and incremental and didn't have it based off resolution. Anytime it's like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to stick to it. Just never works out.

Chloe:

The goals that my clients are creating are like, I want to find the love of my life. Or, I want to find a girlfriend, or The goals

K:

are too high.

Chloe:

Well, it isn't just that they're too high. They're not entirely within their control. Finding the love of your life isn't a goal. It's a wish, right? Like, how is it an actual goal? Well, how is

K:

it

Chloe:

No, it's not like

K:

you just start meeting women.

Chloe:

Sure. But that goal would be going out on dates, right? Or,

K:

or,

Chloe:

or with intention searching for a long term relationship. You're

K:

talking about smart goals. Do you want to tell I don't know if you can tell our audience

Chloe:

what a SMART goal is. Somehow this feels condescending. Okay, so a SMART goal is an acronym. The S stands for Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, and Time bound. So it's making sure that this goal that you are creating is something that is realistic, you can measure that you have accomplished it, um, and that you have a reasonable goal. Amount of time to complete it. The problem with, with something with your goal being, I'm going to find my soulmate, you could try very, very hard and not find your soulmate in a year. That's not a very good goal. A goal could be is I'm going to work on the parts of myself. That are preventing me from being in healthy relationship. So let's dig down into what is that? Is it insecurity? Is it anxiety? Is it that I don't put myself out there? Like what exactly is the problem that is stopping you from finding what you're looking for? And then let's make that the goal. Stuff like I'm going to get super fit, or I'm going to find the love of my life just isn't really a very good goal. And it's really hard to know if you've accomplished it. So. Did you have a New Year's resolution last year? No. I know. I knew that answer was coming.

K:

What's your resolution this year? You realize you don't have much time, right?

Chloe:

Yeah, I know. Well, you don't have to do it on the first day. Yes, you do. No, you don't. You just have to finish it by the end of the year.

K:

Oh, so I could, okay, here's my New Year's resolution. I'm not gonna poop.

Chloe:

I mean, you would need to start it three hours or less before the New Year. Yep,

K:

yep. I've started it. Here's my resolution for 2024.

Chloe:

You have accomplished it.

K:

Yeah. Do you know anyone else who has a resolution of haven't pooped for the New Year? Like, stupid. You start on day one.

Chloe:

You were just preaching about how arbitrary dates make it worse. Okay.

K:

Yeah. I'm just saying. If you're going to do it, then you do it on before the new year. You don't decide on like January 5th, here's my resolution. You do on Jan 1.

Chloe:

My vague and non smart goal is I want to be more intentional with my time. I'm trying to figure out how to make it. actionable. But like, it isn't that I don't want to watch Below Deck with you anymore. Like, I really enjoy us just being lazy and cozy. Like, I really enjoy that with you, but I want when I do that for it to be a decision that I make. What I find happens Like my biggest time waster is me, right? I just, I like, I watch YouTube or I, you know, I tell myself that I can listen to music while I work, but then I'm just singing along the whole time. Or I listened to critical role and then I get like really sucked in. Um, and then all my free time is gone, but it's because I just wasted it. Just kind of. fucking around. Like, I, I don't want my whole life to be scheduled, but I want to, whenever I'm doing something, I want it to be because I have made the conscious choice to do this thing. But that's really hard to make actionable, so I'm still working it out.

K:

So you don't have a goal.

Chloe:

I have almost a goal. I have a dumb goal. Soon it will be a smart goal.

K:

Yeah.

Chloe:

So, what do you want to accomplish this year?

K:

I want to not have to work as much.

Chloe:

I want you to not have to work as much. In fact, I feel like that needs to be a requirement. Like you That is my

K:

goal.

Chloe:

Okay. Is it a smart goal yet? Like, do, do we have a timeline here?

K:

I don't need smart goals. I've evolved beyond that. I have quantifiable objectives and I'm working towards them very diligently.

Chloe:

So there are smart goals and then one step above that are cables. They're not,

K:

they're not, they're not time bound because I'm not bound by time. Okay. They'll get done when they get done. I'm working on them. I prioritize.

Chloe:

Yeah. Nice. So what was the best moment or the best experience that you had in 2024?

K:

It's the best moment would be closing on my acquisition.

Chloe:

Yeah. Yeah. That was really, really good. I was so proud of you. I wanted to. Do bad things. I was so, so proud. And it was somehow so hot. I was, I'm still, I'm just overwhelmingly proud of you.

K:

Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.

Chloe:

What was the hardest thing this year?

K:

Running my acquisition. Do you want me to talk in specifics?

Chloe:

Yeah, because you had a absolute bat shit crazy year.

K:

So basically, you know, I had a small business and there was an acquisition opportunity. And so the person involved with. Selling it was just an incredibly shady person. Incredibly scummy. I think it's sociopath.

Chloe:

Wait. So this business, whenever we first started dating, it came across your path event. Right. And, and it was like, like 10 million more. Right. And then you had decided that it wasn't worth it. And then it came back across your path a year later and it was just crazy discounted.

K:

Yep.

Chloe:

Yeah. Yeah. That was really crazy. I mean,

K:

well, this is why.

Chloe:

Mm hmm. Yeah.

K:

So once we close, I mean, this is already going to be a really huge undertaking for me because my business basically four times is overnight. And it's And

Chloe:

he has no COO, by the way. It's just him. It's just him. Just him. And he confidently says. To me, I'm not even going to look for a COO. I can do the job of five men. And it's true, he is doing the job of five men. But he's also going to die like two years earlier. Because he works twelve hours a day, every single day. What

K:

is life for if not to suffer?

Chloe:

To be nice to me. Okay.

K:

So while this is all going on, you know, I buy it, right? So it's already a huge undertaking. I have to figure out how to make my business work as it's gone four times. I have to turn around the existing business that is just doing terribly. Suffering has no leadership, just doing awful. So there's, there's just a ton of stuff to do. And this scumbag stops paying me because of the way it was set up, just logistically money still had to go through him and he just stops paying me. Cause I knew his nature. Um, and then I just instantly sue him and the thing most people don't know about lawsuits is they suck. He owes me six figures and that owes, he still owes me. This lawsuit's been going on for months. It's even with six, him owing me six figures, it's barely worth it to sue him. And it's just very black and white, too.

Chloe:

It's black and white in that if this gets to court instead of it gets settled, you will 100 percent win.

K:

100%. There is just not a shadow of doubt. There is not like, oh, maybe this, maybe that. It is very, very clear. Money went in here. It needs to go out to me.

Chloe:

You are guaranteed essentially to win because 100 percent of the laws on your side here, you are still barely going to break even for a lawsuit that is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

K:

I mean, I might not even be able to collect, he might just go bankrupt. Yeah. Right. So, cause he's also

Chloe:

getting sued by like a million other people. Right. He

K:

just lost a massive multimillion dollar lawsuit for killing people at one of his buildings. Right. So this guy just

Chloe:

negligence, right?

K:

And there are multiple other lawsuits against, it's just a massive, massive scumbag. This was one of the hardest parts of my life. I took a really big gamble. I put everything into it to try and grow. And while I'm trying to get there, I thought it was already very stressful and tough. And I ended up in a spot where instead of having a year plus to turn things around, now I have three months. And so the end of three months. I'm going to lose everything if I don't resolve this lawsuit and figure out how to get paid while I'm trying to turn around this business, while I'm trying to figure out how to run a business of this size because I've never done it before. I have no one showing me how to do it. I'm just trying to figure out. Figure it out myself. And then I have a building that has, you know, burst, pipe bursting with water damage. I have a building that's getting burglared. I have my staff who are all very immature, let's say a bunch of them and are arguing with each other. Yeah, there's just a lot of stuff that be figured out. And I was, I was over my head and I'm working. I was trying to work literally, I mean, it's, I need to work every waking hour and I'm taking stimulants. Legal, legal stimulants at all so that I can maximize my, my work efficiency. It's when, when you say

Chloe:

negative impact on your health.

K:

Yeah. My health would definitely, I consciously chose, I'm like, this is giving up like years, maybe a year, I hope not years of my life so that I can get through this period in time of time. It was, it was terrible. And then we were having arguments because you. Rightfully wanted to talk like I sometimes was not very nice to you and he wanted to talk about it. And I would tell you, Hey, I don't have the time or bandwidth to talk to you about feelings. I'm going to lose everything if I, I need to focus on this. It was incredibly hard for me.

Chloe:

Yeah, it was very, very hard to watch you struggle and not be able to help you, especially like, and, and then I feel really guilty because I'm like a doer and it drives you crazy, right? Because I, I want to think of something that's going to cheer you up or help you and I can't do anything. So then I just kind of harass you with, with things that I think are nice, but are

K:

really just. Do you want to see these two fat babies wrestling?

Chloe:

It took me a little while to figure out that the only correct move in supporting you was just letting you be. And like that, and it's still hard for me. Actually, you, you praised me a few days ago, which felt really, really good because you were having a bad day. And my instinct is always to like, do you want to hear a joke? Do

K:

you,

Chloe:

do you want to do this? Do you want to do that? And just try to like harass you into being in a better mood. But I like a bit my tongue and I said nothing. And then 20 minutes later, you're like, I'm so proud of you. So I

K:

was prepping myself. I was like, okay, don't be mean to her. When she says something, she's trying to help. Don't be mean. Don't be mean. Just be nice. What are you going to say to her?

Chloe:

I'm a fast, well, I'm a learner. You learned. Four years in, I got this shit figured out.

K:

Even if I directly told you repeatedly, I mean, I know you've had a hard year too. What was your low point?

Chloe:

I think my low point and my high point. We're the same as weird as that sounds because my low point was definitely just kind of making the conscious decision to walk away from relationships that were very bad for me, but I have, but I had had. My whole life. So they were very important to me, but just like reaching the place, which I think I worked on a lot last year, trying to reach that place of, of accepting, Hey, this is not going to be what you want it to be. This is just always going to be painful for you. And just walking away and trying to walk away without lighting and match and exploding everything behind me, because I didn't want to regret it. Years later. Right? That was a brutally, brutally painful for me., because your girl has rejection issues.. Okay, so, so, so walking away and not being chased to come back, one of the hardest experiences I have ever, ever had. Um, but then that also just. Like, I feel like it just really changed me. And I feel like you really, really helped with that because when I no longer spent all of my time trying to appease people who didn't really respect me or really care about what I needed. And that wasn't what I was spending all of my emotional energy on anymore. I had room to do things that I cared about. Right. And, and all of a sudden, like my confidence just skyrocketed. Like I, I just feel like an entirely different person. I can say no and not feel guilty. Like, at all, right?

K:

Didn't know that. That's awesome.

Chloe:

I say no to you a lot more often. Well,

K:

yeah, that's normal.

Chloe:

But just think about, like, how, how worried I used to be about hurting your feelings versus And now you're not worried about hurting my feelings at all?

K:

Is this, is this the point of what you're saying? I don't think it's a good thing.

Chloe:

You know what I mean, like. No,

K:

I don't.

Chloe:

You, you don't remember whenever we first started to date, I would apologize all the time. Oh, yeah. To, to, to a point that you would like try to stop me and you like had a talk like, hey, you're doing this too much. Why are you apologizing all the time? What are you sorry for? Right?

K:

Oh, yeah, yeah, it's true. You did, you have stopped that. Yeah. Yeah,

Chloe:

I don't do that anymore. I don't say I'm sorry unless I'm actually sorry.

K:

I'll make you sorry.

Chloe:

Yeah, I'm gonna make you sorry.

K:

Yeah, you're right. That's awesome. You've grown so much. That's awesome.

Chloe:

It's crazy. And it all came from walking away from people who treated me poorly. And all of a sudden, I no longer feel the need to apologize for existing. Right?

K:

Yeah. What took you so long? Oh,

Chloe:

okay. Um, I think I think it was just a really slow escalation over the period of several years that just kind of cumulated to, holy crap, I think I'm ready.

K:

Yeah. What kind of escalation?

Chloe:

At first, when I was a lot younger, I just wanted to please them, right? Like I wanted, I wanted to be what they wanted me to be. And so I just spent a tremendous amount of time trying to become that. And when I realized how unhappy I was, And it also wasn't working, right? Like, I wasn't successful. And also, I really didn't like who I was pretending to be. I then tried to find alternative solutions. So just, you know, years of trying to be super accommodating and then trying to be, you know, like really honest about how I feel. Trying to, like, have sit down conversations. Like, hey, what you're doing is really hurting me. I really want you to stop. Or, you know, like trying the number of things that I tried for years and years and years. And then I, and then I got into therapy. Right. And, and I went to college where I was taking courses for social work, where I was learning about the fact that I don't really have control over these relationships. Right. Like I can put in everything that I can. And still have a poor outcome because that person needs to be trying to, they, they need to want to treat me well too. I just learned this lesson very slowly and brutally by just consistently sacrificing myself until I couldn't anymore, and I had a breakdown, and then after my breakdown, I started to prioritize myself.

K:

Like the phoenix arising from the ashes?

Chloe:

Well, it was, it was a very wounded, weak, tired phoenix, but sure.

K:

So did you? Did it go according to plan?

Chloe:

It didn't. It didn't. It went according to plan that I was able to

K:

eventually

Chloe:

maintain those boundaries, right? But it still didn't work because it was, it was really painful. So many people have had this experience where you just spend your whole lives trying to make these relationships work when they're never going to work because this person does not know. How to be good to you, and that is never going to change. And so this year was me kind of recognizing. When I don't talk to these people, I'm happier. And it wasn't just that I felt happier. I received comments from my boyfriend and from my friends. Like you, you're so much happier. Like you haven't cried in weeks. It took other people seeing. That I am a better, happier person when these people are not in my life, that really did it for me. So I started off with a break. I just took a break. I'm like, I'm not gonna talk to them for a month and let's just see what happens. And that was the most brutal two weeks, I think, of my life because I kept waiting for them to bang down the door. And swear how much they loved me and that they would never do this again. And they just can't live without me. Right. But of course that didn't happen. So the next few weeks started to feel like freedom. I had accepted. They weren't, they weren't going to call me and I didn't have to think about it anymore. I wasn't pulled in to interpersonal drama. I didn't want to be a part of, I couldn't be the scapegoat because I wasn't involved. Right.

K:

So you. You tried being what they wanted to be, or at least what they said they wanted you to be. That didn't work. You tried setting boundaries. That didn't work. And then you tried having breaks. That didn't really work. And then you progress to just the full cutting them out.

Chloe:

The life that we have is really colored by our environment, right? When you've spent your whole life surrounded by people who put you down, it is very hard to like yourself. It doesn't matter how accomplished you are, or how nice you are, or how good of a person you are. If every day you are treated as though there is something really wrong with you, It is, it's very hard not to believe them. And I just spent a tremendous amount of my life really not liking myself very much. And I think that is what allowed me to stay in a bad situation. It's just so, it's. It's so horrible because it's, it's this, it's a self fulfilling prophecy, right? I'm treated like I don't really matter. Therefore, I believe that I don't really matter. Therefore, I seek out other relationships in which I'm treated like I don't really matter, right? And it just goes on and on and on and on. And

K:

yeah, you know, the crazy part to me is that it's not like you're a homeless drug addict. You know, you're an incredibly impressive person. Every, every part of you is just. Incredibly, incredibly impressive and you're an incredibly nice person and likable person too, right? Just from any metric I can look at, you're awesome. And you have a lot of people in your life who are, Genuinely love you and who your friends and they, and people who meet you, you're just a very likable person. And so the fact that you had these things in your head, the fact that these people treat you this way is crazy to me.

Chloe:

I love you.

K:

I love you, too.

Chloe:

Yeah. I mean, for the first time in my life, you know, like, I agree with you. I think I'm a pretty nice person. I, I try really, really hard and I'm proud of myself. I worked really, really hard.

K:

Do you bought groceries for someone because, or you gave them a ride because you saw them walking with a limp?

Chloe:

Yeah, I do. You were not pleased.

K:

Wait, no. Yeah. So you saw them walking with a, what was it? You saw them walking with a limp. So he gave them a ride and then you found out that they were a single mom. And so you started buying them groceries and lying to them and saying, Oh yeah, I get free groceries. So let me give you some while you were very poor yourself.

Chloe:

Thank you. That, that felt really good. I love you. Yeah. And it's also not like I don't have good people in my life, right? I have really, really good people in my life. I don't know. It sounds really stupid to say out loud, but I didn't understand that I could choose them. I just genuinely didn't understand. I was allowed to say. These people are not the ones I'm going to spend my time with or put my energy into. I'm going to change it to these other people. It, and I feel like so, so many of us kind of fall into that same trap of, of you think, okay, well, if I, if I grew up in this town, then like these, these are the people I have to spend my life with. Right. I had them in my childhood. Therefore, they're my forever people. And it's just. Bullshit, like, your, your forever people can be whoever you want them to be. You're allowed to pick them out yourself.

K:

Yeah, when you described your friends to me, and when I met them, the relationship you have with them is more of a, it's a traditional healthy family dynamic than anything else, right? They are your family.

Chloe:

Yeah. Yeah, they are. I'm sorry. I feel

K:

emotional.

Chloe:

I love them so much. It's been a pretty good year and that I felt like myself this year. I truly feel like I've become who I am, right? When my days aren't spent Worrying and feeling sorry for myself and trying to figure out how, you know, how to navigate really difficult relationships or worrying about the decisions that other people are making. I'm free to do things that I want to do. I'm free to think about things I want to think about. I don't think it's a coincidence that the year that I walked away from these really toxic relationships is a year that my business has just exploded in a way it never has before. Right? Like it's, it's because I was able to put more energy into it and my relationships have flourished and I think that our relationship went another layer, right? Of, of closeness. And I think a lot of it was, I, I just had, like, if, if you think about all the time we spent in our early days of me just stressing out about things I had no control over. You're

K:

triggering me. Yeah. You're healthy. You're healthy now is what it is.

Chloe:

I'm healthy now!

K:

Body and mind and soul and as trite as that is, you know, you're just taking care of yourself.

Chloe:

And it's good. I think I really underestimated. That being healthy isn't just the thing you're supposed to do, but you feel better. Like I, I like myself.

K:

I like you too.

Chloe:

I like you. That is what I learned this year. So it was both the hardest thing I have ever done in my whole life and the best decision I have ever made. ever made, right? It doesn't mean that it's not painful. It still hurts. I still get sad sometimes, but I am a happier person. It felt like I was literally cutting something out of myself, and then I felt a hole where they were supposed to be. And the pain of feeling that emptiness was really, really difficult. But then I realized I could fill that hole with, with Dick. I was like waiting. I was like, I have to, I have to figure out this thought really quickly or else he's going to make a dick joke. But now it's not empty anymore. Like it's, it's, it's full of people. They're, they're just people. I won't

K:

say it. I won't say it.

Chloe:

It also doesn't help that my two closest friends are dudes.

K:

Right?

Chloe:

Well, that, that felt like a very cathartic. It was a really tough start of the year. But then it just got really good.

K:

I love you.

Chloe:

I love you too.

K:

We should end this. I want to bring in the new year watching Below Deck with you.

Chloe:

I want to end the new year watching Below Deck with you. Well, before we go watch Below Deck, I do want to say really quickly that we're going to start hosting a new podcast every other week, and our third episode is going to be about the evolution of online dating, which was really fun to record.

K:

I'm ready to share my knowledge. Yeah. I lived it. I'm a historian.

Chloe:

He's a very important dinosaur. You really deserve to be in a museum. Happy New Year, everybody!

K:

Yay!

Chloe:

That's the most unnatural sound I've ever heard you make. I'm keeping that. I'm keeping that. It's

K:

fine. Are we done?

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